Mesobinary is a term for people who feel like their gender identity and/or experience is related to both binary genders in some way.
It’s mainly a term for discussing the issues of having such an identity, while living in an exorsexist society that constantly tells/forces/etc. people to pick one binary gender.
You can read more about it and the system it’s in here, here and/or here.
Mesobinary, and other alibinary system terms, are not genders, or gender alignments, or ways to group specific gender identities. One can identify as mesobinary for being a man/woman bigender person or a man/woman androgyne, but one can also be a librandrogyne, an altefluid person, an ambonec, a millegender person, a genderfae person, a nonbinary person without further labels, and so on, and identify as mesobinary.
Meso means middle. My intention in coining mesobinary as such has to do with how mesobinary people are often asked/forced to “pick a side” between labels for men and labels for women, groups for men and groups for women, and so on, when they /do/ have ties to both of these groups, and thus they are in a way “in-between” those choices, regardless of their actual gender identity, or regardless of their actual preferences regarding those choices (man, woman, both, neither or in-between when that’s possible).
I’m using meso here to give people a starting point to remember this term. The same goes for exobinary, ideobinary and viabinary. These are just okay-ish prefixes, and not necessarily accurate depictions of the gender identities people in each of those groups use.
However, someone asked me (it’s on this blog) about changing the term or using an alternate term, because people who relate to being both men and women in some way while not relating to being “in-between” binary genders may think mesobinary can’t describe them accurately.
I talked with other people about this, and one of them asked me to make this post, separate from the ask, so people can see the context before responding.
Basically, the question is: do you feel like mesobinary is too inaccurate a word to describe people who may not feel any connection to being in-between binary genders? Do you feel like ambisobinary would be a better word, even if it may not be so intuitive?
I don’t think there’s a need for substituting the word (when meso- is more known), anfisobinary seemed to be an alternate good term (as in anfisian with Greek etymology).
My experience with mesobinary: I do have some connections to binary-ness, but my womanhood and manhood are kymenian xenine pixelgenders (I’m attraflux, sometimes they grow up into semigenders, magigenders, nanogenders, antigenders, but never fully comgenders, supragenders nor ultragenders). I’m more like otherly gendered than non-binary I’d say, because some of my genders are adherent to the gender binary (it makes sense that I am anonbinary, beyond binarity and non-binarity). But that’s my intrapersonal world, I know I fall as well in abinary and alibinary systems. It’s really hard to me that all my gendered-ness part is divided in (demi)agender and (demi)comgender.
Sure male-female genders are nonbinary, but not as in nonbinary monogender / suptilian is mostly represented. For example, instead of «just» putting the “other” or “X” gender options in documents sometimes I’d «also» like to choose male AND female in formularies.
I HAVE MASCULINE TRAITS AND FEMININE TRAITS IM SO SPECIAL AND UNIQUE !!
Oh wait, literally everyone who exists has a combination 🤭🤭🤭
one time in 2007 i crashed the entire club penguin website. it was down for 2 days. i was banned for life.
many of you have asked, and so i shall give:
in 2007, my older brother gave me a small piece of information that would soon result in the shutdown of Club Penguin for a few days. he taught me a glitch in the club penguin system that, when sitting in the coffee shop, would make your penguin sit on the ceiling of the coffee shop instead.
and with this piece of information, i took off. i spent hours going to every server over and over, saying the same message: everyone meet in the coffee shop tomorrow at 7 pm in the snowball server. i did this in every single server, in every location i could find.
then, finally, 7 pm the next day arrived. snowball had a population rating of 5. penguins poured into the coffee shop, all awaiting my instructions. i then gave the next message, that of the glitch. i told everyone to wait exactly 3 minutes, then perform the glitch. they did. every penguin in the coffee shop was suddenly on the ceiling, and either the club penguin coding or the club penguin offices had no idea what to do, and no way to take us down. for a small glimpse of time, we ruled victorious – nothing and no one could stop us.
every great kingdom awaits its downfall, however. eventually, the website crashed. no one could go on the website for 2 days after that. my penguin was banned for life.
I really need to get away from femme4femme dykes tbh just interacting with them is alienating and painful and it’s literally never just about attraction
Uhhhh………. can u expand on that ?
What would u like expanded on?
The whole thing ….. what is alienating and painful about fem4fem’s??
Also don’t appreciate saying something negative about lesbians and calling us dykes in the same breath
Are you implying I’m not a lesbian lol?
Ok well first of all y’all tend to devalue the experiences and lives of butch women, and second you get offended at posts like this going as far as putting my sexuality and place in the community in question because I made a personal statement about my comfort in interacting with femme4femme lesbians because of the personal devaluation I experience at the hands of women who act like butches are vagrant because of our particular gendernonconformities, doubly so as a trans butch talking about cis ones. Your response is a fairly good if not implicit example of what I’m talking about. 🖤
Ohhhhhhhh myyyy godddddddd
You’re mad hurt and yet you’re the one discriminating against fems and making generalizations lol actual butch lesbians don’t pull this shit. I beeeeen around in this community and this isn’t how we do things. Get ur ass out of here lol bitch bye
Lol the person I reblogged this from is dying from cervical cancer as I speak. 1 like = 1 dose of life saving chemotherapy treatment
uhm what.
Are you okay love 😦 I know your vagina might look like the inside of a 4 pack a day smokers lung right now but stay strong sweetie! Females gotta look out for each other xoxo
the pussy envy is strong with this one
uhhh I don’t understand why you’d be envious of my vagina? Makes stop committing sexual harassment challenge
@loving-women-is-rad snakes is a trans male, I thought she was male at first too
Damn y’know you are really good at this
Look the whole meaning of your first post changes depending on if you’re mtf or ftm or biologically female and identifying as female. I would like to know where you stand so we can discuss this. if you dont feel comfortable telling thats fine but playing games isnt helping
I’m female, biologically and otherwise. Are you?
I’m also biologically female
shes a trans girl. (mtf) shes not biologically female. shes biologically male and was just pulling the ‘trans people are the sex the identify as’ bullshit. shes about as biologically female as i am biologically male. i checked her blog.
@snakesonhighbranches dont lie when someone asks you to legitimately clarify. thats fucking rude.
I’m a trans male idk what you’re talking about I’m female stop lying male
oh yes, thats why you tagged yourself as transgirl,,, “makes sense”
Yeah it’s cuz I’m female? But I’m trans? Are you stupid? Look kiddo stay out of female spaces, just because I described myself as a “"trans girl”“ at the time (pic is over 3 years old lol) doesnt mean I’m male? You might not realize this but trans females can call ourselves ‘girls’ and it doesn’t mean we’re male. You’ve got a lot to learn.
sorry but “are you stupid?”
i spent like two minutes and found all this. youre a self described mtf trans girl who at some point was looking for estrogen, which means you definitely are not biologically female.
stop trying to pretend youre ftm just to fuck with this conversation. its disgusting and offensive. im ftm and youre being fucking disgusting.
this entire post is horrendous. you made fucking cancer jokes and purposely obfuscated the truth. dont fucking lie.
I was going through a phase where I pretended to be mtf for attention. I’m 100% female do I look like a male to you???
uh,,, yeah. sorry plus you cant even keep your story straight, so. “trans females can call ourselves girls” vs “i pretended to be mtf” are two different claims bucko and theres a helluva lot of evidence for the third option aka youre a fucking shitty trans person whos mtf and a dickbag
I’m not mtf I’m ftmtf. Show me your face so I can tell if you’re male or not straight boy
plus you cant even keep your story straight, so. “trans females can call ourselves girls” vs “i pretended to be mtf” are two different claims bucko and theres a helluva lot of evidence for the third option aka youre a fucking shitty trans person whos mtf and a dickbag
Justine Troondeau 